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By yicky yacky (Thu Jun 22, 2006 at 08:20:25 AM EST) World Cup, footie, footy, football, monkeys (all tags)

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It's a'Fooccer!



Bring the Ruckus

Well, after yesterday's dainty little social gatherings from groups C and D which saw Mexico fail to beat the Portuguese and Holland whisper sweet nothings in Argentine ears, today we have four games which actually mean something.

 

I'll have an 'E' please, Bob

Group E's show-downs (both at 1400 UTC) consist of The Czech Republic VS. Italy (in Hamburg) and Ghana VS U.S.A. (in Nuremburg - the newspapers are still dying to use JTL's 'Nuremburg Rally' headline, so maybe the U.S. can oblige). Group E currently looks like this:

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|   |                | P | GD | PTS |
+---+----------------+---+----+-----+
| 1 |     Italy      | 2 | 2  |  4  |
| 2 | Czech Republic | 2 | 1  |  3  |
| 3 |     Ghana      | 2 | 0  |  3  |
| 4 |      USA       | 2 | -3 |  1  |
+---+----------------+---+----+-----+

What does this mean? Well, as can be seen, anyone can qualify and anyone can be knocked out. Theoretically, any one of three can win the group and any one of three can finish bottom, but that relies on certain teams racking up (English) cricket scores. So what are the permutations? Well, they are too convoluted to go into fully, but they basically break down like this:

  • Italy will win the group if they beat the Czechs. They will still qualify (and possibly still win the group) if they only get a tie.
  • The Czech Republic will win the group if they beat the Italians and Ghana fail to beat the U.S. by one goal more than they score in doing so. They will still qualify if they tie with the Italians provided Ghana fail to beat the U.S. or the U.S. fail to beat Ghana by a basketball score.
  • Ghana will win the group if they beat the U.S. and Italy tie with the Czechs, OR if the Czechs beat Italy and they go postal on the U.S.A. They will qualify if there is a winner in the ITA v, CZE game and they beat the U.S.
  • The U.S.A. can't win the group (by my reckoning), but they can still qualify if: they beat Ghana and Italy beat the Czechs, or they beat Ghana by a truckload (5 goals, I think) and Italy and the Czechs tie, or they beat Ghana by the enough goals and the Czechs beat the Italians (under this scenario, the more of an arse-kicking the Czechs hand out, the less the US have to score).

I've heard the suspicion that the U.S. will beat Ghana but that the Italians and Czechs will conspire against them. This is risky for the mooted conspirators because, if ever true, it leaves the Czechs vulnerable to a Ghana win. This is looking like a really tough group and, in each game, at least one, if not both, of the teams have to win to make sure of their continued participation.

 

F you!

Group F's show-downs (both at 1900 UTC) consist of Japan versus Brazil (in Dortmund) and Croatia VS Australia (in Stuttgart). Group F currently looks like this:

+---+-----------+---+----+-----+
|   |           | P | GD | PTS |
+---+-----------+---+----+-----+
| 1 |   Brazil  | 2 | 3  |  6  |
| 2 | Australia | 2 | 0  |  3  |
| 3 |  Croatia  | 2 | -1 |  1  |
| 4 |   Japan   | 2 | -2 |  1  |
+---+-----------+---+----+-----+

What does this mean? This is slightly differenent to Group E. Whatever happens, Brazil are through, very probably as group winners. The others can all qualify, with the Aussies having an outside chance of catching Brazil. There is some incentive to win this group, as it would mean that you'd probably avoid the defensively-solid Italians in the next round. This may change as the teams in this group will already know the results of group E before they start.

  • Brazil can only fail to win the group if they lose to Japan and Australia wallop Croatia by a large number of goals. They have qualified anyway.
  • Australia will win the group if they lay the smackdown on Croatia and Brazil lose to Japan. They will qualify if they beat Croatia, or if they tie with Croatia and Japan fail to beat Brazil by three goals.
  • Croatia can't win the group but will qualify if they beat the Aussies.
  • Japan can't win the group but still qualify if they beat Brazil by a ton and Australia and Croatia tie. All but numerically, they are essentially out.

Plenty to play for all round. Come on, you colonials!

[I knocked this up for some friends and family and figured some HuSites may be interested. Most of this may be wrong]

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[Correction] by yicky yacky (2.00 / 0) #1 Thu Jun 22, 2006 at 08:31:23 AM EST

The above was written under the erroneous assumption that Croatia had 2 points rather than 1. Clearly, they don't. It doesn't change the permutations much, but their strngth relative to Japan is slightly different. Either way, the Japs have to beat Brazil, which I can't see happening, unless Zico has bribed some of his old buddies.


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Argentina-Holland by nebbish (4.00 / 1) #2 Thu Jun 22, 2006 at 08:38:40 AM EST
Was I the only one to think the Argentinian machine sputtered to a stop when it came up against decent defence? Granted it wasn't their first choice of team, but it's a relatively slow style of play and Holland dealt with it well just by sticking close. They didn't give any real chances.

Bah, I want all those teams to go through.

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I don't know by yicky yacky (4.00 / 1) #3 Thu Jun 22, 2006 at 08:46:01 AM EST

I wasn't really paying it a terrific amount of attention, but my impression was that they were both content with a draw and weren't really pressing the issue that much. I thought the Argentines were the better side by some way, and would have "won on points", so to speak. I only remember one semi-serious Dutch assault, and about six Argentine ones, but they were mostly "half-chances" at best.


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Argentina were the better side by nebbish (4.00 / 1) #5 Thu Jun 22, 2006 at 08:54:12 AM EST
You're right, they probably weren't trying too hard. Just nice to think we might have a slight chance of beating them :-)

I still loved the match, I could watch Riquelme's feet all day.

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I thought my man Tevez... by Metatone (4.00 / 2) #8 Thu Jun 22, 2006 at 11:09:31 AM EST
made a good case for starting ahead of Crespo.

Unfortunately Crespo has a brilliant record in internationals, often in the right place at the right time (c.f. rebound vs Ivory Coast) so it looks like back to the subs bench.

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Missed the Ivory Coast match by nebbish (4.00 / 2) #9 Thu Jun 22, 2006 at 11:32:49 AM EST
But Crespo impressed me against Serbia. Anyway, with this team it's not so much about individual players as the whole.

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I like Crespo... by Alice Pulley (4.00 / 2) #10 Thu Jun 22, 2006 at 11:47:54 AM EST
...his style of play possibly not suited to the premiership (although his record wasn't as bad as you'd think) but he has scored a lot of goals as an international and with massive regularity in Serie A, which is no mean trick.

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Hooray for Australmerica by cam (4.00 / 2) #4 Thu Jun 22, 2006 at 08:48:09 AM EST
Go the yan-(s)-kips.

cam
Freedom, liberty, equity and an Australian Republic


Sticking my neck out by TPD (4.00 / 1) #6 Thu Jun 22, 2006 at 08:58:56 AM EST
I've gone for Ghana and the Czech Republic in group E.

Conspiracy seems rather far fetched Ghana would look to be far to good a team for the Czech's to just assume they are going to lose.

Nice round up.

Rock Hard Abs are just a sw-sw-swivel away!


Whilst by no means impossible by yicky yacky (4.00 / 1) #7 Thu Jun 22, 2006 at 09:04:26 AM EST

that'd still be major news, especially as the Italian F.A. are releasing the results of their match-fixing probe immediately after the afternoon games. Hardcore.


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Woo Ghana! by 256 (4.00 / 1) #11 Thu Jun 22, 2006 at 11:57:18 AM EST
sort of a shame they're going to run up against Brasil in their first knockout match.
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Keep hope alive by yicky yacky (4.00 / 1) #12 Thu Jun 22, 2006 at 01:04:10 PM EST

I'd love to see the Brazilians be sent home early [predominantly because I got Argentina at very good odds several months ago, it must be admitted].


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