Way around the loophole by leviramsey (4.00 / 2) #7 Mon May 14, 2007 at 04:00:47 PM EST

10 point deduction is assessed as .22 point per game deduction over your next 46 games. Thus if you do it with one game to go in the season, the entire 10 point deduction is assessed the next season. If you do it after 40 games, its 1 point this season and 9 the next, etc.

In the North American leagues (most especially the NFL), Bates would have gotten on the "cannot own a franchise list" a fairly long while ago.

I was hoping that West Ham would be relegated and go on the Leeds Express to League One, but that has not happened. Fucking racist cockney shirt-stealing cheating thugs.

I am going to miss Neil Warnock next year. He is one of the most entertaining managers around. I would gladly trade him for the likes of Benitez.


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To clarify the last paragraph: by leviramsey (4.00 / 1) #8 Mon May 14, 2007 at 04:01:46 PM EST

I would much prefer to have Warnock than Benitez.


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Clarifications by Metatone (4.00 / 2) #10 Mon May 14, 2007 at 04:08:33 PM EST
I didn't mean to say that I thought it was hard to close the loophole in general (although your solution is very elegant.) Rather, I don't see them being in a good position to close it for Leeds. Changing the rules retroactively would be certain to attract a legal challenge.

Benitez can be quite entertaining in Spanish, sadly we don't get to see many of those interviews.

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I'm not necessarily talking about his interviews by leviramsey (4.00 / 1) #14 Mon May 14, 2007 at 07:37:07 PM EST

But more about his style of play.

The scousers' trip to Villa Park is 2 hours of my life that I'll never get back...


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While by yicky yacky (4.00 / 1) #11 Mon May 14, 2007 at 04:21:41 PM EST

I disagree with the "franchise" system for various reasons, your suggestion makes a lot of sense; certainly, something along those lines would be better than what they have now.

I think Metatone's right, though. Most of this has come about as a consequence of a system with inconsistent precedent and a lack of foresight. I imagine the loopholes will be closed fairly quickly, but the circumstances which lead to them being exploited weren't envisaged. It's not entirely unlike the situation where India started complaining about one of the Pakistan bowlers' actions, but they didn't do so until they lost a match, which weakened their case, as he'd been bowling that way for a while.

As I understand it, Leeds didn't actually need to do it, but they did it then as, seeing as they were getting relegated anyway, it was the more financially-sensible option. Boston United (about to fall out of the bottom of League Two) tried to emulate Leeds and went into administration halfway through the second half of their last game of the season (against Wrexham, which isn't so very far from me, so it was in the local media) as there was still a chance they might survive until that point. The league had already guessed they might try it, though, and warned them in advance that any decision on the points penalty would be taken by the league in light of the time left. It's still under review (complicated by the fact that Boston are dropping from one league system [The Football League] to another [The National Conference]).


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For the record by leviramsey (4.00 / 1) #13 Mon May 14, 2007 at 07:28:15 PM EST

There isn't a blacklist per se.

At least for the NFL, the franchise agreements state that a majority of the other owners have to approve changes in the ownership of a franchise; I can't think of a time that it's been used, but then again, the fact that you have to convince 16 groups that the league will be better off having you tends to filter out non-serious bids. For related reasons, the NFL (with the exception of Green Bay) prohibits corporate ownership, due to fears over publicly held companies messing things up.


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